Jobs to Be Done
Interview Technique
Stephen Deckrow
Product Manager
Ready Talk
@steve_d
Jason Hall
COO
GetBinocs.com
@hall_jason
Contents & Agenda
Framework Overview
Interview Tools
Example Interview
Resources
What is JTBD?
JTBD is a framework that helps you
understand why people hire/fire
products and services.
Customers don’t buy products
because of the type of person they are,
but because they have a job to do.
Do you like pizza or do you like steak?
“It depends on the situation.”
● Early-forties
● Subaru Outback
● College educated
● Thornton, CO
● $90k-$110k
Persona: Jane
Where is Jane going for dinner?
“It depends on the situation.”
JTBD looks for why someone hires
a product or service to fulfill a job
“It depends on the situation.”
Understand Your Customers’ Intentions
Before Focusing on Their Attributes
Jobs Don’t Change Much ...
The Solution We Hire Does
Why Practice JTBD?
Marketing
Better messaging
Customer context
Use better words
intercom.io
Product
Which Features to Build
Which Features to Improve
Which Features to Kill
Product
Build?
Improve?
Kill?
The JTBD Interview
30-45 minutes in length
Tools:
Forces Diagram
Timeline
Forces Diagram
if ( Push + Pull )
is greater than ( Anxiety + Allegiance )
New Behavior
Customer Retention
Customer Acquisition
Timeline
Source: Alan Klement via
https://medium.com/the-job-to-be-done/a-script-to-kickstart-your-jobs-to-be-done-interviews-2768164761d7
Timeline
Source: Ross Belmont
http://rossbelmont.com/post/90905074208/jtbd-timeline-template
Timeline
Source: Andrej Balaz
https://medium.com/the-job-to-be-done/jobs-to-be-done-interview-template-30421972ab2a
First
Thought
Event
One
Event
Two
Purchase
Progress-making
Push / Pull
Progress-hindering
Anxiety / Habit
Interview
Tips & Tricks
Low-stakes, early research (even if not true!)
Documentary metaphor
Search for the emotional energy
Level-up
Retell it wrong on purpose to prompt more detail
Resources
http://www.jobstobedone.org - Bob Moesta & Chris Spiek
Mastering Jobs to Be Done Interviews on Udemy
https://github.com/brianrhea/awesome-jtbd (pull requests
welcome!)
http://jtbd.info - quick primer on the JTBD framework
Switch workshops - periodically held by The Rewired Group
Stephen Deckrow - @steve_d
Jason Hall - @hall_jason - getbinocs.com
Get out there and start doing interviews!

Jobs to be Done Interview Technique

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  • #3 Jason We want participation! We’ll ask someone to come up to be interviewed; so if you’ve purchased something > $100 for the first time in the last 2-3 months, you’d be perfect and we would all get a chance to learn.
  • #4 Jason Associated with the Institute for Disruptive Innovation at HBS - Clay Christensen who wrote Innovator’s Dilemma + Innovator’s Solution and coined “disruptive innovation”. New book coming out in October → Competing Against Luck. Not about understanding customers but understanding the jobs they want to do.
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  • #12 Jason These two groups, their demographic attributes, their personas have very little overlap – other than that perhaps they’re human beings and literate. Very different personas. Same job. “I have a boring commute. I’d like to find something interesting or entertaining to keep my mind occupied while going from Point A to Point B.”
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  • #14 Jason Experiences: Mocavo - signup flow: helped us to reduce hidden complexities around initial purpose (journey mapping) Mocavo - better onboarding: changed the onboarding email text to highlight two of the main jobs that people hire our product to do Craftsy - JTBD round as started new job; built empathy with customers very quickly (though we had internal research team so wasn’t my job to continue doing it)
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  • #27 Jason Someone who purchased something >$100 in the last 2-3 months, never purchased something like this before
  • #28 Jason - motivations can be FUNCTIONAL, SOCIAL, and EMOTIONAL
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