CEO Paul Shoukry recently appeared on Bloomberg TV to share insights on key trends shaping the financial industry, including equity markets near all-time highs, the potential impact of lower interest rates and the transformative role of AI.
Let's talk more about
what we're hearing when it comes to
investor sentiment with Paul Shoukri. He is
Raymond James, CEO, joining us on set.
Great to see you, Paul. Oh, great to be here.
So let's start there. You, of course, have
a very unique view on the lay of the
land when it comes to sentiment. And when
you take a look at advisors, what their
clients are doing and saying, how does
sentiment look right now? Yeah, the advisor
and client sentiment is very high right
now. I was just at a dinner last night
in downtown New York with 250 advisors,
and the morale from the advisor community
is through the roof. They're managing,
on average, record levels of client
assets and production. And most importantly, the client sentiment
is very high. The equity markets
are near all-time highs, and so I know
there's a lot of headlines around tariffs,
government shutdown, and those type of
things. But I'm not hearing a lot of those
concerns when I'm out on the road. And
I spend 80% of my time out on the road
meeting with advisors and clients. I
don't hear too many concerns around those
type of headlines. Yeah, it's pretty wild
to look at the S&P 500 higher by about
16.5% year to date. I want to talk
specifically about Raymond James because one of
the big reasons why you've seen such a
resilient market is this belief in AI
really powering some of those huge technology
companies. I know when it comes to Raymond
James, you recently filled your chief
AI officer role. You also hired a head of
AI strategy. What does AI look like for
Raymond James and basically the business
of wealth management? I mean, the leadership
team at Raymond James, we have a conviction
that AI is going to be an absolute game
changer, not only in our industry, but in
all industries. And so we made these key hires
to really build out our AI strategy across
the organization. I'd say it's a three
-pronged strategy. It's first starting
on efficiencies in the back and
middle office to do more with the same
number of people. It's also to protect the
firm, the foundation, the cybersecurity,
where so many of the false positives were
historically monitored and evaluated by
humans. Now those can be done in seconds through
AI and automation. And then, of course,
helping advisors and financial professionals
with client-driven insights to help them
develop more personal relationships with the
help of technology. And so we're looking
at AI not from a lens of circumventing
or going around our financial professionals
to go directly to clients, but really from a
lens of how can we enable our financial
professionals, our financial advisors,
to develop even more personalized
relationships and tailored
relationships with their clients.
As you sort of build out those AI and
technology capabilities, is that going to be done
sort of organically, internally, or are
you looking maybe to potentially make
acquisitions to help? Well, it's really all
of the above in terms of building AI technologies
organically and internally, but also
partnering with third -party vendors. Because
every third-party vendor that we use,
including Bloomberg, they're integrating AI
into their solutions. And so the team is really
looking at where does it make the most sense
for us to leverage the AI that's available
to us. Do we want to build it in-house?
Does it make sense to build it in-house?
Can we do something differentiated with it?
or should we partner with a third-party firm
that's doing that on their specific area of
expertise? I am curious, though, about just
the general impact right now of economic
conditions and, I guess, more importantly,
interest rates as well. And I know on your
earnings a few weeks ago, you talked on the
conference call about this idea of actually
how a drop in interest rates, to a certain
extent, might actually help your business, at
least on the lending business side of that
business. But I am curious if you could
kind of articulate what a lower interest rate
environment is going to mean for Raymond
James and your clients. Yeah, I mean, we're a
diversified financial services firm,
so there's always puts and takes with
anything that happens in the markets or
with interest rates. Lower rates, we believe,
will be helpful to the M&A business. We
have a large investment banking and M&A
business. Lower rates, especially if financing
is still available to the extent that it is
today, makes valuations and makes financing
transactions more attractive. So we think
that that could be a nice tailwind for the M
&A business. You talked about loans to our
high net worth clients, mortgages and securities
based loans. Those are floating rate
loans. So lower rates should increase borrowings
there as it did when rates were near zero
during the pandemic. But then in terms of
some of the some of the offsets, certainly
the spread, the earnings we have and the
spreads that we make on cash balances will
go down. So that would be a potential
offset to some of the tailwinds. I also do
want to bring private markets into the
conversation, specifically in the context of wealth
management, because we know that private
assets, all the rage right now. And I wonder
what it means for Raymond James. You think
about the competitive landscape here. You
had Morgan Stanley buy Equities and Schwab
just bought Forge Global, I believe. So
what is your offering currently look like
and how do you see it evolving over the
next couple of years? We've been investing
in that platform for a long time. I
mean, the underlying premise is that more
companies are staying private longer,
and these are high -growth companies in
a lot of cases. And so we want to be
able to enable our advisors to provide
access to their clients to invest in those
type of companies. At the same time, what
private markets means has expanded
dramatically just in the last three to five
years. And so we want to make sure, first and
foremost, that any investment that advisors
sell to their clients makes sense for their
clients and their positions. These are
relatively liquid to public securities,
and so we need to make sure that clients are
comfortable holding that amount of liquidity
in their portfolio because it tends to
become less liquid when you need the cash the
most. And so we're having a balanced
approach, just like we do with everything. It's
really ��� it has to make sure ��� we have
to make sure that's consistent and aligned
with the long-term financial plan of the
clients. You said you travel a lot, as you
would expect a CEO like you to do. I am curious,
so how much time are you spending in
Washington right now? I'm actually going to
Washington next week. So I didn't get
invited to the dinner tonight that I guess
a bunch of Wall Street CEOs, yeah, I still
can make it if I get the invite here in
the next 30 minutes. But, you know, and
Paul Riley, who was my predecessor's
executive chair, he's spending a lot of time
on Washington, too. He's on the board of an
industry association. So, yeah, we are
engaged in Washington. But I really try
to spend most of my time with advisors,
financial professionals, and clients. So
that's where I'm spending the bulk of
my time when I travel. Yeah, it's a much nicer
bunch than the folks in Congress. Paul,
great to have you here.
It was wonderful reconnecting Paul Shoukry before the Bloomberg insightful session in the Bloomberg offices. Looking forward to catching up in NYC—as a fellow member of CFO leadership—and to welcoming you to CEO leadership session on your next visit as the CEO Raymond James. Best wishes.
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3dImpressive milestone, Paul. Well done.