It was a pleasure to speak at the 2025 Von Braun Space Exploration Symposium on the first panel, Commercial Horizons: NASA’s Lunar and Mars Payload Services - Innovation, Technology, and Cost-Effective Access. Thank you to my fellow panelists (Ray Allensworth, Trent Martin, and Aaron Mitchell) for engaging and thoughtful discussions and to our moderator, Matt Wallace! I want to thank #AAS for their flexibility in light of the government shutdown, to the entire AAS team for their hard work in making the Symposium another success, and to the sponsors.